Today, in my view, the most important research question in
the field of toxicology is, what are the effects of low-level toxicant exposures?
Particularly when the exposure is nearly ubiquitous. (See a recent study that
suggests fetal BPA exposure to be nearly ‘universal’ http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es402764d)
If we look at the field of toxicology as having two halves
to it, the first half being everything that has been studied up until now, and
the second half being what will come from now until the field is dead, the
first half of toxicology, in my view, was about defining the toxicities of
chemical exposures at high doses. Although things such as arsenic, lead, and
mercury have been known to be toxic going back to ancient times, the actual
investigations into the biological mechanisms and pathological outcomes have
not been defined until the 20th century, where modern biological
research techniques we able to be employed. Today, toxicologists often times don’t
have the luxury to study the effects of clearly toxic chemicals at high doses;
we need to address the concerns that pertain to our public, the chemicals that
we are exposed to, at the doses that we are exposed to.
The reality is that due to the toxicologists, the research,
and the public outcry and environmental policy that followed this period of
investigation, human exposure to many of the major hazardous compounds has
largely decreased. But, new chemicals have been introduced, while old toxicants
continue to elude complete avoidance.
This brings us to the major question of the future of
toxicology, how do you deal with low-level exposures? What are the effects? And,
how do you know what exposure is truly hazardous, versus simply hype?
Nearly every day, when I scan the news, I will come across
an article about environmental exposures, health, and toxicology. People care
about this stuff, but it’s difficult to truly communicate what is something to
be concerned about. In trying to understand truly hazardous versus hype, there
is rarely a more difficult case than low pesticide exposure and the organic vs
traditional food debate.
In a paper published just recently in PLoS One, a graduate
student in the UW Dept. of Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences
(Cynthia Curl) looked at organic produce consumption and socioeconomic status
in a large cohort, (Congrats to Cynthia! this is a great publication).
What she found, in many ways, was exactly what you would
expect. You are more likely to be eating organic produce if you are: a woman,
younger, from a more economically strong an liberal city, have a higher income,
more educated, employed, and have closer access to supermarkets.
Although these results are what most people would likely
hypothesize, and this data supports this fantastically, I was most struck by
the percentages of those saying that they eat organic produce. In total, 40% of
their population say they ‘sometimes, often or always consume organic produce’,
reaching as high as 61% for those between the ages of 45-54 (the youngest age
group).
This strikes me as a large number, and what it says to me is
that roughly half of the population (I bet if those between the ages 18-45 were
included, they would have an even higher rate) makes the conscious choice to
purchase organic produce. So why would half the public make this choice?
Although this question may sound simple, there are many
reasons why someone would choose to buy organic produce vs non-organic produce,
and people buy organic produce for different reasons. Regardless of the reason
someone would buy organic produce, any walk through the supermarket produce
section will reveal that organic produce is typically more expensive than
traditional produce. Whatever the reason someone chooses to buy organic, he/she
did some sort of cost benefit analysis and came to the conclusion that organic
produce is worth the added cost. You guys may remember when there was a flurry
of excitement and anger when a group from Stanford published a report saying
that organic produce was no ‘healthier’ than normal produce.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/science/earth/study-questions-advantages-of-organic-meat-and-produce.html?_r=0
Here’s the actual study: http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleID=1355685
The study was a systematic review, in which they extracted
data from every single publication on the topic thus far, to combine the data
in a more complete statistical analysis. These types of studies are considered
an excellent way to look at everything that has been done on a topic so far,
which helps to eliminate a ‘single study bias’, where conclusions may be
erroneously made following a single study. The review looked at organic vs
traditional foods in terms of nutritional value (i.e. vitamins, minerals, etc.)
as well as presence of toxic chemicals (arsenic, lead, mercury, as well as pesticide
residues). They also reviewed the few studies to date looking at organic vs
traditional food consumption and risk of clinical disease. Their conclusions
were simple, 1) there is no nutritional difference between organic and
traditionally grown foods, 2) there are slightly increased pesticide residues
in traditional food produces, and 3) the studies looking at clinical health
outcome thus far do not show any adverse health effects. Overall, they report
that organic foods are not ‘healthier’.
On my Facebook feed, which I admit has way more toxicologists
and public health people than likely the normal Facebook feed, people were
freaking out. The general sentiments were, “obviously we don’t eat organic for
more nutrients” and “they don’t know what the potential health risks of low
level pesticide exposures are”.
But what’s interesting, as the authors’ note in this
publication, is that it is a
widespread belief that organic produce has more nutritional value. And although
the extremely low level pesticide residue on certain traditionally grown
produce may have some extremely low level effect, the current investigations
into this have proved null. The reality is that we do not have the strong
evidence to say that eating organic foods vs traditionally grown foods will
result in a better clinical outcome. Now, I’m not saying that eating organic is
not worth it, the lesser environmental impacts and sustainable farming
practices that are encouraged in organic farming is reason enough, but there is
simply not strong enough evidence to say that eating traditionally grown foods
is bad for you. What we do have is evidence that eating a large amount of
fruits and vegetables daily will dramatically reduce one’s risk of disease, for
reasons still unclear (as someone who loves to study antioxidants, we can’t
just say this is due to antioxidants). And what we should be encouraging more
than anything is to eat fruits and vegetables daily, regardless of organic or
not.
The organic vs traditional food argument is the perfect
example of the challenge between separating the reality vs the hype in
environmental health and toxicology. Most pesticides are extremely toxic to
humans. They are a challenging class of toxicants because they are designed to be toxic, and they typically
target the exact same biological mechanisms that are shared between insects and
humans. But, again here comes the issue of low level exposures, what about
these trace residues or produce?
In toxicology, we love to quote Paracelsus, the 15th
century physician who is famously attributed to the phrase, “the dose makes the
poison”. In this quote, he reasoned that it is the dose that distinguishes what
makes a remedy from a poison. This is a cute saying, and it makes an easy slide
when lecturing on the basics of toxicology, but I feel that we often times
forget this in toxicology. In my view, the dose truly does make the poison, and
in saying so, a pesticide at a high dose, has about as much in common with the
same pesticide at a low dose as any other toxic chemical, which is to say it
doesn’t have much in common at all. When people discuss the potential health implications
of low level pesticide exposures, they tend to discuss mechanisms that have
nothing in similarity to the biological mechanism of action that is seen in a
high dose pesticide exposure, in my view, this makes it essentially a different
poison. Because the known toxic mechanism of high level exposures is not at
play in these low level exposures, any potential toxicity would be considered
very different from the high dose toxicity, and it’s very possible that these
low level exposures do not have a real effect. Currently, this is the view of
the FDA, and I have a hard time coming to any other conclusion with the data
published so far.
So what should we think about organic vs traditional foods?
How do we deal with a low level exposure of something that we know is toxic at
high doses? I don’t know if I have a clear answer, but I wanted to make two
points that are quite opposed to each other. This is why I am still confused
about how to address these concerns.
1) We need to stop focusing on markers, and start focusing
on real clinical outcomes.
Often times we overly convince ourselves that we know why
certain things are beneficial and why certain things are not. For example, as I
mentioned above, we know that eating a large amount of fruits and vegetables
will dramatically reduce our risk of a myriad of diseases. But if you ask
someone, why are fruits and vegetables are good for us? You will likely get an
answer like, “oh the antioxidants!” And as a result, food products will
advertise their antioxidant content, creating labels like “Vitamin Water”,
claiming to be beneficial because of the antioxidant content. But the reality
is that the antioxidant supplement trials have been a complete, and I mean
complete, disaster. Millions and millions of NIH dollars later, we can say that
taking antioxidant supplements should be avoided. Taking high dose antioxidants
increases the risk of cancers in most populations and we cannot see any benefit
in terms of most clinical outcomes. What we know is that eating a diet rich in
fruits and vegetables, which contain high amounts of antioxidants, will result
in longer lifespan and reduced risk of disease; not, eating high amount of
antioxidants will result in longer lifespan and reduced risk of disease. As discussed
in the Book Oxygen, Nick Lane argues
that many of the toxins in fruits in vegetables, naturally produced to prevent
bugs from eating them, may actually be mildly toxic to us as well, stimulating
an adaptive response that may prove to be protective in the long run. What this
says is that we still don’t know for sure why fruits and vegetables are good
for us, so focusing on a marker, say looking at antioxidant content, will not
allow us to know the full story. Applying this to pesticide residues on fruits
and vegetables, without data to support this, we cannot say that traditional foods
are less healthy for us due to trace pesticide residues, we can’t say this
without actual clinical outcomes.
Here's the link to Oxygen, which is essentially a 300 page complex review article on redox biology, but I highly recommend it for those interested.
2) Does it even matter if we know something is actually good
or not? Or is our ‘gut’ feeling about something being ‘good’ or ‘bad’ actually
better?
If we take the traditional vs organic food argument, many
people have come to the conclusion that organic is ‘better’, and it really
doesn’t matter what the actual clinical or analytical data says. People buy
organic for many different reasons, and it may just feel better to buy organic, is there anything wrong with that?
Although I may not be convinced that organic foods are actually a way for us to
improve health or reduce our risk of disease, I do believe that the practice of
organic farming has its heart in the right place. Perhaps our world would be
better with an entirely organic food production system, so if people believe
that there will be health benefits to buy organic, regardless of if it is true
or not, this may have a benefit to our community. This same argument would
apply to the current debate on GMO labeling, although I do not believe there is
any health risk to eating GMO foods, perhaps the sustainability and better food
practices that come with non GMO foods are worth it to discourage the practice.
Although understanding how the public feels about a particular concern in the
absence of any supporting data is a tricky situation, I’m starting to believe
that when the heart is in the right place, believing in a benefit that may not
be there, while simultaneously supporting an industry that has good practices,
may turn out to have alternative benefits in the long run.
The point at which this becomes a problem is when someone
avoids needed medication because of an unsubstantiated belief in an alternative
treatment, I may write more about this in the future.
Overall, our ability to distinguish between the truly
hazardous and seriously hyped risks of environmental exposures is a challenge
that has important implications. The media reports on these topics don’t help
in distinguishing the two, and somehow we expect the general public to have a
full understanding of the risks and benefits of certain practices, even when there is no consensus between experts in the field. We need to do better
at coming to conclusions ourselves before we can expect the public to
understand these risks, and when we do, we need to vigorously engage with the
public to help disseminate important public health information.
Chad Weldy
Thanks as always for helping us sift through what is known and what is hyped. For a new parent (as you have witnessed often) this is a constant effort. I like what you say about the potential benefits to our community of organic farming. I would add that avoiding synthetic pesticides seems critical for those exposed to much higher doses in this process--i.e., the farm workers. I'm also curious what you think of the other meta-analysis on this topic (discussed here: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/science/stanford-organic-food-study-and-vagaries-of-meta-analyses.html?_r=0). Appreciatively, Nat
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment Nat! Although I don't have a child of my own, I can definitely sympathize with a constant struggle to try and figure out the right balance to provide the best for little Jack, you guys are doing amazing though, and Jack is and will be great!
ReplyDeleteYour comment on the need to avoid exposures to those who are working in the farms is dead on.
Although we don't have too much evidence that exposure to pesticides through foods is very significant (and there are studies to show that simple washing of produce does a pretty dang good job of getting rid of low level pesticide residues) we do know that those working with pesticides and are getting exposed in a occupational setting do have problems. This is where Anna's work on pesticide exposure and Parkinson's Disease comes in. Also, there is fantastic work out of the UW from a friend of mine, who has shown that the families from farm workers (kids and spouses at home) get higher exposures than non farm working families, and that this is influenced by whether or not it is the spraying season (these studies were done in Eastern Washington). So here is a great example of hazard vs hype, it is no longer hype when we're talking about occupational exposures and pretty reasonably high family exposures when the clothes and boots with a large amount of pesticide residues come into the home. These exposures are for real and they may very well have long lasting effects. But, one thing to consider, organic foods does not necessarily mean no pesticides. To bring up Anna's work again, she is investigating the molecular mechanism of a pesticide, rotenone, to induce dopaminergic neuronal cell death, the important neurons that when die, result in parkinson's. Unfortunately, rotenone is considered an organic pesticide, and occupational exposures to rotenone have been associated with increased risk of PD. We have this notion that 'natural' is better, but nature has done a pretty great job at creating some pretty nasty chemicals.
On the other meta-analysis, thanks for passing that along, I saw that when it came out but I forgot about it. So as the NYT article mentioned, they used slightly different methodology, and they reported a 9% increase in vit C in organic foods compared to non-organic foods. And this is when I feel hype sets in, 1) they're looking at the same data, analyzing it in slightly different ways, which one is better? I don't know, but we do know that there is not, say a doubling in vit C content, it's pretty close to no change, or a slight increase in content. This could be due to time that non-organic foods sit out, where they may have more time to oxidize, I doubt that the foods differ too much in antioxidant content. And 2) very modest increases in vit C are not going to increase lifespan or reduce risk of disease. Unfortunately, taking oral vit C above 250mg has no additional systemic absorption. So taking a huge amount extra will not help, but in some cases can seriously hurt, particularly when someone has hemochromatosis or other disorders that result in too much free iron. And as I mentioned in my other post, we don't know if antioxidants are actually the beneficial factor in fruits in vegetables.
All of these issues are definitely a tough to sift though, and hopefully we can all wade through it eventually!